Yk I know Quark is a trash capitalist but, at least where I am in my first watch of DS9 (Season 3, episode 3 – House of Quark) he has a LOT of really really interesting character traits and moments. And, in my person theory so far, does a lot to redeem the race that was entirely comic relief and annoyance in TNG.
Like, he’s pretty much always willing to debase himself for a deal, but he actually does have a really high sense of dignity. When he’s calling Sisko out for disrespecting the Ferengi in S2x26 The Jem’Hadar he points to the ways that Humans don’t treat the Ferengi well but he also comments that despite their cunning, and their tendency towards deceit, the Ferengi are not violent people. They don’t enslave others, they don’t fight interstellar wars, they don’t colonize. They are in fact better or potentially more moral than the other races in this context. The Ferangi may double cross you, but they won’t physically harm you.
And in House of Quark like, yeah he’s really scared about what’s going on but when he demands to see the financial records, his voice is even and serious. He really demonstrates how he is a clever and thoughtful person. AND he solves the problem by manipulating his understanding of Klingon honor to survive a battle he couldn’t win. In The Maquis he OUT LOGICS a Vulcan by using a Ferengi concept of value to advocate for peace (and sets up a pretty clear reason as to why Ferengi largely don’t get involved in wars, they don’t try to make peace “more expensive” than it needs to be).
And I think some of this has to do with the fact that Ferangi seem to have a SHOCKINGLY well developed sense of forgiveness, and Quark is no exception. In Move Along Home, he is terrified. He thinks he might have to send his friends to their deaths (once again proving his has no stomach for violence). But as soon as it turns out to be a game? No problem! All is forgiven, let’s see if we can make a deal. In The Grand Nagus Rom tries to KILL him, and he’s forgiven in a heartbeat. I guess that is what allows them to not be violent, they have their very specific codes and you can double cross people within it but that’s the nature of the beast. They don’t hold onto grudges or blame.
I’ve had these screenshots sitting in my drafts for a minute. Not sure of my intent, but at the very least it’s an interesting contrast.
The first screenshot is Mega Man Legends on the PlayStation from 1997 (1998 outside Japan), and the second is from The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998). I don’t think either screenshot is from the original hardware, or at least not as the games would have appeared on CRT televisions of the time.
As contemporaries, it’s fair to compare them as action-adventure games in which a player radiates out from a central hub to explore the world and its dungeons. Mega Man had a more robust customization system for its weaponry and the dungeon designs are fairly generalized to accommodate a broad array of weapons and tools, whereas Ocarina continues the series legacy of specialized dungeons designed around specific items. Mega Man also has a more boxy aesthetic to its characters and world, while Ocarina is more naturalistic in its palette and geometry. In terms of animation, Ocarina has nothing on the expressive anime-inspired characters faces from Mega Man, perhaps the most memorable aspect of the performances in that game. The main knock against Mega Man Legends is that its camera is based on the PlayStation original controller without analog sticks, and so movement and camera control is stiff and not as pleasant as the Nintendo 64′s camera experiences (or later PlayStation games that utilized the DualShock controller).
But the strongest feeling here is unexpected joy. I rented Mega Man Legends from Blockbuster Video three times before I finally bought it. I can’t say what compelled me to initially rent it (perhaps just a spotlight in a game magazine and a general interest in Capcom’s work at the time), but as I played through it and then kept going until I explored every nook and cranny, I realized this was a game that could fulfill what was missing as someone who hadn’t owned Nintendo’s SNES and Nintendo 64 until many years later. I was just not getting these Zelda and Mario experiences that so many raved about, and so I looked for surrogates. Mega Man Legends unexpectedly filled that role and then far exceeded my expectations. It’s a game of light-hearted adventure, pirates, and robots, but also explores themes of legacy and the expectations of previous generations on those who must make lives of what was left behind. It has so many fun character moments and part of the joy is just getting to know the inhabitants of Kattelox Island as they struggle to “eke out a living on the small patches of land that remain above the sea.” It’s Waterworld, it’s robots, it’s anime. There’s so much there.
Capcom produced a sequel and a side game starring the anti-hero Tron Bonne, then dropped it for years. There was a brief attempt to pick up the cliffhanger ending from Mega Man Legends 2 with a third game, but the project died when the series director left Capcom and there’s little hope of seeing any more games in the series. The good news is that the three main games in the series are available digitally for PS Vita and PS3 through the PS Classics label on the PSN store. All worth checking out!
Star Trek fans, please reblog with the series/movie that got you into Star Trek and the approximate year that you did so.
TNG, and it was the summer before I turned 10, so around Dec/Jan 1991.
(My parents had been renting TNG on VHS for a couple of years, but that was when it registered as something I might be interested in obsessed with.)
Discovery, December 2017 🙂
VOY and ENT, 2001, I got the tail end of VOY and thought it was interesting but ENT was MY Star Trek
TNG/TOS Films, around age 6, circa 1992.
TNG right from the pilot. 1987, I was 6
VOY, im not sure cos I was like,,,, a baby but I’m gonna guess 2001/2 since that’s when I was born
Voyager, 2017. Watched the first scene and *groans*… gave it another try a couple of days later and fell in love with Captain Janeway ❤️
Tng 2010? My roomie was binge watching the series and I fell in love.
Technically Star Trek 4 in 1995? I didn’t know it was Star Trek until my dad had me watch TOS a year later
TNG, 2016. We still have cable (don’t judge) and BBC America was airing TOS and TNG in September as part of the 50th anniversary. Fell in love with Picard and crew and to this day it remains my comfort show.
The Original Series, November 2019.
Ds9 late august early September 2019
I don’t remember a time before Star Trek. it was probably the first adult show I could recognize on TV. my parents watched TNG as it was coming out in the early 90s
For whatever reason, I chose to watch DS9 on Netflix back in 2015 without having cared about Star Trek at all before that. I wasn’t instantly onboard but I stuck with it and came away liking it enough to follow it up with TNG and then VOY. I got around to the remaining shows and movies in later rewatches of the whole lot.
I spent the better part of the pandemic with DS9 on loop, played all the video games recently, and now I’m coming up on a rewatch of DS9 in Spanish, so… it stuck.
Deep Space Nine 1×19: “In the Hands of the Prophets”
Commander Sisko has a conversation with his son about respecting the power of faith, even when you don’t hold it yourself.
When so many science fiction stories depict religion with one shallow brush of “primitive” and inherently at odds with science, I appreciate DS9′s willingness to depict religion in all its complexities. This episode, for instance, doesn’t shy away from showing the uglier side of religion – Winn’s extremism that causes her and her followers to pull Bajoran children from a multi-species, secular school and proclaim “Bajor for Bajorans.”
Yet Sisko, who has come to respect his second-in-command Kira’s faith as something vital, understands that this extremist side does not negate all the good that the Bajoran faith has brought. And, a grade-A father as always, he explains this to his son without talking down to Jake, knowing that Jake trusts and respects what Sisko has to say – just as Sisko always respects what Jake has to say.
ID: a gifset of Benjamin Sisko and Jake Sisko sitting side by side with a gray wall and a window showing the stars behind them. They hold the following conversation:
JAKE: The same thing is happening now with all this stuff about the Celestial Temple in the wormhole. It’s dumb. SISKO: No, it’s not. You’ve got to realize something, Jake. For over fifty years, the one thing that allowed the Bajorans to survive the Cardassian occupation was their faith. The Prophets were their only source of hope and courage. JAKE: But there were no Prophets. They were just some aliens that you found in the wormhole. SISKO: To those aliens, the future is no more difficult to see than the past. Why shouldn’t they be considered Prophets? JAKE: Are you serious? SISKO: My point is, it’s a matter of interpretation. It may not be what you believe, but that doesn’t make it wrong. If you start to think that way, you’ll be acting just like Vedek Winn, Only from the other side. We can’t afford to think that way, Jake. We’d lose everything we’ve worked for here.
The bonus gif shows Sisko and Jake still next to each other; Sisko has taken Jake’s hand in his and holds it as he speaks, then places his other hand on top of their clasped hands. / end id
The funny thing is that Jake really takes it to heart- the idea that you should respect the beliefs and culture of others and that you can be friends even if you disagree- and applies it to his friendship with Nog. And Sisko doesn’t like it at first. He has his own prejudices he’s not aware of, but Jake acts like a mirror, reflecting back the values his father taught him.
Deep Space Nine 1×19: “In the Hands of the Prophets”
Commander Sisko has a conversation with his son about respecting the power of faith, even when you don’t hold it yourself.
When so many science fiction stories depict religion with one shallow brush of “primitive” and inherently at odds with science, I appreciate DS9′s willingness to depict religion in all its complexities. This episode, for instance, doesn’t shy away from showing the uglier side of religion – Winn’s extremism that causes her and her followers to pull Bajoran children from a multi-species, secular school and proclaim “Bajor for Bajorans.”
Yet Sisko, who has come to respect his second-in-command Kira’s faith as something vital, understands that this extremist side does not negate all the good that the Bajoran faith has brought. And, a grade-A father as always, he explains this to his son without talking down to Jake, knowing that Jake trusts and respects what Sisko has to say – just as Sisko always respects what Jake has to say.
ID: a gifset of Benjamin Sisko and Jake Sisko sitting side by side with a gray wall and a window showing the stars behind them. They hold the following conversation:
JAKE: The same thing is happening now with all this stuff about the Celestial Temple in the wormhole. It’s dumb. SISKO: No, it’s not. You’ve got to realize something, Jake. For over fifty years, the one thing that allowed the Bajorans to survive the Cardassian occupation was their faith. The Prophets were their only source of hope and courage. JAKE: But there were no Prophets. They were just some aliens that you found in the wormhole. SISKO: To those aliens, the future is no more difficult to see than the past. Why shouldn’t they be considered Prophets? JAKE: Are you serious? SISKO: My point is, it’s a matter of interpretation. It may not be what you believe, but that doesn’t make it wrong. If you start to think that way, you’ll be acting just like Vedek Winn, Only from the other side. We can’t afford to think that way, Jake. We’d lose everything we’ve worked for here.
The bonus gif shows Sisko and Jake still next to each other; Sisko has taken Jake’s hand in his and holds it as he speaks, then places his other hand on top of their clasped hands. / end id
The funny thing is that Jake really takes it to heart- the idea that you should respect the beliefs and culture of others and that you can be friends even if you disagree- and applies it to his friendship with Nog. And Sisko doesn’t like it at first. He has his own prejudices he’s not aware of, but Jake acts like a mirror, reflecting back the values his father taught him.
I summarized what I learned from playing Star Trek Deep Space Nine video games for six months.
Still reeling over the game that’s just like, hey, you lead the Dominion army to kill all of the characters you know and love from the TV show.